tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post6003998636570991907..comments2023-06-16T13:16:40.618+02:00Comments on Noodles logbook: Laser LaunchedNoodlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07829600344187451258noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-41777932827964129512013-02-11T21:21:58.205+01:002013-02-11T21:21:58.205+01:00Yes, thanx! It is always nice with RL input; There...Yes, thanx! It is always nice with RL input; There is so much work in building a good boat, we tend to ignore those small details. The Laser is raising the barre on the visual resemblance, and that is really nice. Incidentally, WWC means Wind, Waves, Current. It is a system providing a simulation of a sailboat racing environment. It is not perfect, but it's pretty good.Noodlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829600344187451258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-27185129788030184252013-02-11T21:08:03.829+01:002013-02-11T21:08:03.829+01:00I had to look up that Turbosquid thingy. It seems ...I had to look up that Turbosquid thingy. It seems there is no Laser there, but suppose there was. What difference would it make? AFAICS none. It's still just another Laser replica, and you can't be sued for copying a replica, or can you?Noodlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829600344187451258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-44637233099570358732013-02-11T05:49:52.134+01:002013-02-11T05:49:52.134+01:00It is clearly a likeness of the Laser starburst sy...It is clearly a likeness of the Laser starburst symbol. It's just a bit too large and it's in the wrong place. I'm not sure that would be an excuse that would hold up if someone tried to make a boat like this in the real world and the trademark owner decided to sue them.<br /><br />But do real life copyright and trademark owners sue if someone infringes their rights in Second Life?Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-46047500839374466462013-02-10T01:34:38.538+01:002013-02-10T01:34:38.538+01:00Good thing it's not the real logo on the versi...Good thing it's not the real logo on the version that's for sale then ;) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-44392606656095623242013-02-10T01:09:06.741+01:002013-02-10T01:09:06.741+01:00I don't even know what a WWC is! I've just...I don't even know what a WWC is! I've just been sailing Lasers in the real world for about 30 years and thought you virtual people might be interested in my observations on what a real Laser looks like, since none of you seem to know.Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-15723726913298317452013-02-10T01:07:14.355+01:002013-02-10T01:07:14.355+01:00I'm confused. Are we discussing how to make a ...I'm confused. Are we discussing how to make a Laser in a virtual world that at least looks look approximately like a Laser in the real world? Or how to make some virtual creation called a Laser which bears little resemblance to a Laser in the real world.<br /><br />If the latter, please feel free to draw squiggly graphics all over the sail and make the hull 130 ft long.<br /><br />If the former, then the Laser class rules DO define the sizes of the numbers and where they must be placed. Sorry, I didn't make the rules. Just reporting on reality.Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-28598751280493421132013-02-10T00:54:34.363+01:002013-02-10T00:54:34.363+01:00No. The Laser is not protected by copyright. But t...No. The Laser is not protected by copyright. But the Laser name and the starburst (sic) logo are trademarks whose rights are owned by the current Laser manufacturers in RL (or companies closely associated with those manufacturers.)Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-40318352208330713462013-02-09T14:21:23.455+01:002013-02-09T14:21:23.455+01:00I agree that WWC is a much more important issue th...I agree that WWC is a much more important issue than the blister in the sail, but go easy on Tillerman. He is from RL. How would he know about the missing WWC :-DNoodlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829600344187451258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-25146206962974127942013-02-09T13:29:49.953+01:002013-02-09T13:29:49.953+01:00Firstly, search Turbosquid before you make these a...Firstly, search Turbosquid before you make these accusations. There's no Lasers there. Not this one.<br /><br />Second, the X40 logo isn't on the version that's for sale.<br /><br />Thirdly modern marketing strategies include allowing use of brand names in video games, because of the simple fact that it sells more of the real thing. For a company to vigorously *ssfuck someone because of this really wouldn't be in their best interest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-81477386041536373332013-02-09T11:59:33.187+01:002013-02-09T11:59:33.187+01:002 points.... Isn't the laser protected by copy...2 points.... Isn't the laser protected by copyright? I don't think I will buy one, I have seen what Linden Lab finally get of their backside in cases like this.. The maker gets banned from SL and vigorously chased through the american court system. The suckers that brought their boats get their inventory impounded and inspected by the men from the Lab. All objects found to be copyrighted will be taken out. Copyright theft in real life is just as bad as copyright theft in Second Life. Don't bitch about copybots or people stealing your ideas if you buy this boat. Unless you have the copyright owners permission in writing its theft, plain and simple.<br /><br />Secondly why does the boat have the graphic on the hull?? X40 series?? on a laser??? wouldn't it be better just to have a plain hull?? Again the graphic is copyrighted.<br /><br />L$1500 is alot of money for a model of a boat that could be quite easily picked up and imported from Turbo Squid, an a poor sailing engine stuck in quickly.. I'm not saying this has happened but looking at the makers lack of morals in "borrowing" copyrighted materials I would have to hold my disbelief.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-57574455648327395212013-02-09T10:53:41.746+01:002013-02-09T10:53:41.746+01:00Jeez Tillerman, get a life. Does the boat sail wel...Jeez Tillerman, get a life. Does the boat sail well? Do you miss WWC compability? Those are 'important' issues. Who cares if a logo is too big, too high or crooked. In the Netherlands we have a word for people like you, (roughly translated) antfucker!Slantynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-57843743298688679622013-02-09T03:09:53.299+01:002013-02-09T03:09:53.299+01:00The logo isn't a starburst, it's a "l...The logo isn't a starburst, it's a "laser" dot.<br /><br />The numbers don't have a required height btw. Every organization can put them where they like. Maybe if you look at a lot of pictures you'll see the difference from one sail to another.<br /><br />This might also be a good time to mention that texturing the sail yourself is really easy. I think they're perfect but if you want a different one, it takes about 15 minutes with the templates provided.Kain Xenobuilderhttps://marketplace.secondlife.com/stores/94614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-59280930780618825262013-02-09T00:35:07.978+01:002013-02-09T00:35:07.978+01:00I think he looked at lot at a real Laser. Maybe he...I think he looked at lot at a real Laser. Maybe he was tired of looking, when he finally got to doing the sails. In any case, it is easy to fix. I also think your feedback is important. Why? We're so stunned by the accuracy in this replica, we tend to miss the obvious. Noodlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829600344187451258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-724749504995792010.post-56476557011693103572013-02-08T17:38:40.197+01:002013-02-08T17:38:40.197+01:00The sail looks wrong. The starburst logo looks to ...The sail looks wrong. The starburst logo looks to be too big and too low. And the numbers are way too low. Didn't the designer even look at a picture of a real Laser sail?Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.com